Curse

Moa Bird Cultist · Jan 19, 2007, 03:57 PM // 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragannia

Are you kidding?

Em no, Searing Flames and Sandstorm are both miles better than Ether Prodigy. In fact, even Shockwave is better than Ether Prodigy. Not to mention Invoke Lightning, Blinding Surge and several others that I can't think of right now. EP is overrated, simple as that.

Anyhow, biggest buff; see above comments. (ie, giving eles decent elites, as well as buffing the old "mind" spells.)

Biggest nerf; (for me,) Tigers Fury 33% > 25% attack speed decrease, making it totally unviable to run on a warrior, (I don't use an IAS anymore.)

Thom Bangalter · Jan 19, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22

The biggest nerf was signet of ghostly might. I wish You could still one shot guild lords.

BryanM · Jan 25, 2007, 05:28 AM // 05:28

Biggest nerf period: Sand Shards.

Sand Lasers was the most powerful build, period. PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW

They should have "Old Sand Shards" weekends instead of these silly iffy double/triple-drop themes. Just throw any pretense of balance out the window.

JoeKnowMo · Jan 30, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32

Biggest Buff: Destructive Was Glaive for 2 days during the test weekend when it was doing some 40% armor penetration.

Biggest Nerf: DwG when it got reduced to 5% AP by the last day of the weekend.

Tarzan The Chetta · Feb 07, 2007, 07:09 AM // 07:09

Nerf- Protective Bond

IAmFlip · Feb 15, 2007, 06:03 AM // 06:03

I kinda liked Glass Arrows' new buff. +19 damage at 14 Expertise =P.

Suspect · Feb 17, 2007, 07:14 AM // 07:14

I stopped playing for a year because of the prot. bond nerf.

Osi Ri S · Feb 17, 2007, 10:11 AM // 10:11

Nerf: When i first saw this thread, Veratas Sac came to mind. Before its nerf it was used on EVERY MM skill bar, now after the nerf, anyone that can read can see how usless it is. I mean yea Prot Bond was a HUGE nerf but it still serves its purpose, not only is Veratas Sac nerfed into Oblivion, but its also bugged.

Buff: Icant really think of one right now but from reading everyone elses posts, id have to say SV or The new Ele elites. (If i think of one later ill post it)

BryanM · Feb 21, 2007, 11:20 PM // 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osi Ri S

Veratas Sac

And they gave us an insane Blood of the Master. The most powerful skill in the game, PvE wise.

Blood of the Master is definitely the most buffed PvE skill ever.

Tingi · Feb 22, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34

I would rather have Veratas Sac back....

BotM just teaches us to spam the hell out of our skills...no fun playing MM anymore...well not AS much fun.

Veratas Sac just makes the game less tedious...but it's nerfed to crap now. grrrrr

Arkantos · Feb 23, 2007, 02:54 AM // 02:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moa Bird Cultist

Em no, Searing Flames and Sandstorm are both miles better than Ether Prodigy. In fact, even Shockwave is better than Ether Prodigy. Not to mention Invoke Lightning, Blinding Surge and several others that I can't think of right now. EP is overrated, simple as that.

I really hope you're being sarcastic.

Ic Zero · Feb 24, 2007, 12:32 PM // 12:32

greatest nerf=chain lightning, spirit bond, avatar of grenth

greatest buff=shield of deflection, eruption

Aes Sedai Egwene · Mar 13, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

I really hope you're being sarcastic.

Ether prod really isn't that good. Ether Prism is miles better.

At any rate, biggest nerf was probably black out. Used to be that it didn't drain adrenaline, so warriors could blackout monks then beat them to death while they stood by helplessly. *edit* Chain Lighting spikes were leet till it caused exhaustion

*/edit*

Biggest buff...that's real tough. The mind skills of eles are pretty good. Spoil Victor was huge.

Brian the Gladiator · Mar 13, 2007, 10:54 PM // 22:54

Biggest Nerf (PvE):
-Minion Master only allowed to have a maximum of 10 minions.
-AI changes and the effect it has had on some of the elementalist skills
(I know both of these aren't skills but I felt they were worth mentioning)
-Prot Bond on your 55

Biggest Nerf (PvP):
-Tigers Fury
-Prot Bond

Biggest Nerf (PvP/PvE):
-Most Paragon skills. I think the pve aspect of paragon got hit the worst but they are hurt in both types of play.

Biggest Buff (PvE):
-Fire eles were strengthened

Biggest Buff (PvP):
-Spoil Victor

Biggest Overall Buff!!!
-ALL NIGHTFALL ELITE SKILLS!!!
ok, before you flame on this comment, take a look at a list of all elite skills in the game (there is one on wiki). Make sure that the skills are catagorized in order of the chapter that they are part of. (again, this is on wiki). If you look at it, there are WAY MORE very good elite skills that came out in nightfall then any other chapter.

Samurai-JM · Mar 14, 2007, 04:22 AM // 04:22

I never go anywhere without my Assassin's Promise/Dark Prison BOA sin. If an enemy doesn't die from a 4 attack combo with 2 dual attacks causing poison, bleeding, deep wound, 400+ damage, and ending with Blades of Steel, you shouldn't have been attacking that enemy alone in the first place.

xtc_blitz · Mar 15, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16

I think you are all missing one of the biggest nerf's ever... The MM Minion Limit Nerf...

I still remember going into SF with my MM and having minions standing on top of each other so they could fit in the corridors at times.....

Argg Im A Pirate · Mar 25, 2007, 04:11 AM // 04:11

I think Minion Masters are good i remember the old times back in the old day when you could have like a bilion minions ahh good times good times.

NightTiger · Mar 29, 2007, 03:32 PM // 15:32

probally going to get flamed for this but what about pre Factions MM's you remember the MM armys of around 20 or more, that was changed slightly and made me sad

Corpselooter · Apr 07, 2007, 01:55 PM // 13:55

I nominate another skill. "Shields Up!".
R.I.P.

RadeonDJ9600 · Apr 14, 2007, 05:06 AM // 05:06

Biggest Nerf:
Gale, and to a lesser extent Shock
Verata's Sacrifice - I have a picture somewhere with me controlling 37 minions..those were the days
Most recent AoE nerf - had to leave GW for a while as all I really enjoyed doing at the time was just farming here and there with friends or for financial gain
Zealot's Fire - I remember discovering that on my first monk way back in May 05...Watch Yourself+Cyclone Axe+Zealot's=my favorite "smiting monk" combo

Biggest Buff:
Fire Ele skill buffs - encouraged me to actually pick my original char, my ele, back up and play through nightfall with him, Mark of Rodgart+ConjureBarrage on my ranger=fun
Dash - Actually made it a viable running/fleeing solution

As for my real "Biggest Buff" I really don't know...none of the skill buffs in the past have had a real game changing influence on me :/